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Re: Discussion point: Telco quality?
From: Geoff Lisk <glisk () digisle net>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:03:28 -0700
At 07:21 PM 10/8/98 -0400, Paul Ferguson wrote:
This latest fiber cut just kind of jarred my brain into the realization of what "telco quality" services really boils down to.
Actually, telco quality is not a positive thing at all in my mind: - Circuits costing 40K/month take errors and are mysteriously "cleared while testing" or better yet, there's "no trouble found" and the errors go away all by themselves. - MUX software upgrades that should have caused "several 50ms hits", takes out 10Mbps of bandwidth for 12 hours. - FOC dates that are more like guidlines. - Having LECs and IXCs that finger point at each other's legs of a circuit when there's a problem. - Two words: unmanned terminal. And it's not limited to the data services... - Getting the infamous "all circuits are busy" or a fast busy when trying to complete a call. - The static filled line that used to be clear until the PacBell truck came a prowlin. Considering about 97% of our data network outages are caused by the telcos, I shudder when I hear that Lucent wants to make my data network as reliable as the voice network. I can only hope that the current trend of realistic SLAs makes it to the carriers, instead of the current "well if it's down for a couple of days _maybe_ we'll refund some money to you if you beat us up really bad." </rant> :) -Geoff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff Lisk Phone: 415-228-4170 Network Engineer E-mail:glisk () digisle net Digital Island Pager: glisk () airnote net One hop to the world... www.digisle.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality?, (continued)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Charles Sprickman (Oct 08)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Paul Ferguson (Oct 08)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? David Lesher (Oct 08)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Paul Ferguson (Oct 08)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Paul Ferguson (Oct 08)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Charles Sprickman (Oct 08)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Roeland M.J. Meyer (Oct 08)
- RE: Discussion point: Telco quality? Bill St. Arnaud (Oct 09)
- RE: Discussion point: Telco quality? Paul Ferguson (Oct 09)
- RE: Discussion point: Telco quality? Bill St. Arnaud (Oct 09)
- RE: Discussion point: Telco quality? Paul Ferguson (Oct 09)
- RE: Discussion point: Telco quality? Roeland M.J. Meyer (Oct 09)
- RE: Discussion point: Telco quality? Paul Ferguson (Oct 09)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Paul Ferguson (Oct 11)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Dan Hollis (Oct 11)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Chris Kilbourn (Oct 12)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? David Lesher (Oct 10)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Roeland M.J. Meyer (Oct 10)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? David Lesher (Oct 10)
- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Randy Bush (Oct 10)
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- Re: Discussion point: Telco quality? Jay R. Ashworth (Oct 11)