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Re: Is Qwest leaking routes?


From: Charles Sprickman <spork () inch com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:40:45 -0500 (EST)

Sorry about that, Sean didn't write the snippet here, he wrote the one
below my post...

Charles

On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Sean Donelan wrote:

Yes, it appears Qwest was leaking routes, but they are fixing it...

Am I just silly to assume that it shouldn't take so long for such
well-funded companies to communicate with each other?  AS286 is EUNet,
right?  This all started sometime yesterday...  I still see this:

BGP routing table entry for 206.97.128.0/19, version 10233204
Paths: (1 available, best #1)
  3847 1239 1800 209 286 3561
    207.240.48.45 from 207.240.48.45 (207.240.48.1)
      Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best

This is a C&W customer.  Now I'm single-homed, so I'm no BGP expert, but I
think this is telling me that EUNet is claiming to be in the path here.
How can it possibly take so long to work something like this out?

Charles

Its always so much fun to watch billion dollar companies dance around
the issues.

Qwest's spokesperson could not confirm nor deny any problem, and
even if such a problem existed considered it a confidential matter.

On the other hand, C&W received top billing on the news story, probally
because they were one of the few providers to actually give any information
to the public and reporters.  Grrr.  I'm not a big fan of C&W, what
are your peering requirements this week?; but I don't like to see
providers getting zinged for being open about network issues.

However the root cause is a very old issue.  It takes two to create
a route leak.  One to announce the erroronous route, and one to listen
to the erronous route.  The proper router filters on either side of
the connection would mitigate the problem.  Everyone knows the basic
issues.  1) cisco routers can't hold the extremely large access-lists
required to fully filter peer-to-peer connections between large providers.
2) some providers don't make available the information needed to
accurately verify their routing information.  3) review the archives.
-- 
Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO
  Affiliation given for identification not representation


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