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Re: address spoofing


From: alex () nac net
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 05:04:44 -0400 (EDT)


On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Phil Howard wrote:


Greg A. Woods wrote:

my upstream provider to use RFC1918 on inter-router links, but they do
anyway.  I'd like them to filter those addresses too, but they won't.

I do agree they should be filtered out.

At what point should we draw the line and say who can, and who cannot,
use RFC1918 addresses on links?  My first thought would be any link over
which traffic from more than one AS transits, or between AS's, should
always be fully routable.  Any better ideas?

Somewhere along the lines of this thread, the point has been lost (IMHO).

If a provider uses 1918 addresses on internal links, who cares? And when
you say 'filter' them, do you mean filter them in routing announcements,
or filter any traffic to/from that ips?

If the former, than thats good, you should do that; it should be part of
your martian filters. If the latter, thats fine too, but traceroutes will
'*' on those hops.

But, once again, who cares? Conservation of IP space is good at worst.


won't be using precious unique IPs and feel the pressure to use RFC1918
numbers instead).  I'm certainly no expert at this, but from the outside
I've seen it done quite successfully.  It sure cuts down on the hop
count visible from traceroute too!

Using 1918 space will have no bearing on hop count or visibility of the
hop. Thats rediculous.




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