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Re: Verio Decides what parts of the internet to drop
From: George Herbert <gherbert () crl com>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:10:30 -0800
James Smith <jsmith () dxstorm com> wrote:
Based on past experiences, I would say that the big backbone providers shouldn't do any filtering at all. Then, the lower tiers can do all the filtering they want, and still rely on default routing to send the packets to the backbone. It may not be the prettiest way to route traffic, but this would allow smaller ISPs to filter if they cannot afford buying bigger equipment to hold all the routes. Since the tier-1 guys are the glue of the Internet, they should be required to take everyone routes.
There are numerous instances where that sort of policy would have blown up large chunks of the net. It's already happened. Part of the problem is that the Tier-1 guys can't buy bigger equipment to hold all the routes, either. When Sprint started this sort of filtering in 206.* I yelled and screamed, thinking it was foolish. History has proven us wrong. Without it, we'd be at route announcement levels which would blow up the available backbone hardware. Plus, without that sort of selective filtering, accidents can kill things right and left. I am not sure whether the danger in opening up the B space for /17 blocks is particularly bad, but lacking a single consistent policy body with sufficient clue about both the Tier-1 backbone issues and the address allocation issues, it's hard to fault any given ISP for insisting on /16s in B space. -george william herbert gherbert () crl com Disclaimer: I am a CRL end user, not employee, and speak for myself only.
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