Re: ARIN whois

[Ehud Gavron <GAVRON () ACES COM>]

        Dean, you're wasting bandwidth on this list.  If you
        are running open relays CLOSE THEM.  And shut up.

        Ehud

> These are coming from Mass, Cleveland, Ohio, and Virginia.

> We use our relays for legitimate business purposes. They are not "accidentally left open".  We are not going to close 
> them.  We are going to pursue abusers civilly and criminally.  The FBI assures me that it does not matter criminally 
> that access comes f

> Much of the activity appears to be comming from alleged ANTI-SPAMMERs such as Chris Neill, and Alan Brown and Ron 
> Guillemette who have been inciting attacks against us, posting to alt.2600 and advertising our service.  Inciting 
> criminal acts is a crimina

>               --Dean

> Around 11:18 PM 11/21/1999 -0500, rumor has it that Kai Schlichting said:
> > At 09:16 PM 11/21/99 -0500, Dean Anderson wrote:
> >
> > > Can someone send me a list of *all* AOL netblocks?  ARIN's whois only gives back a handful.
> > >
> > > I want to block _all_ AOL netblocks, but its tough to find out what they are.
> > >
> > > Thanks to a few malicious, radical antispammers (Chris Neill, Alan Brown, etc) we are getting hit with a large 
> > > number of criminal mail relays. Mostly coming from AOL addresses. We have about a half dozen individual criminal 
> > > complaints underway.
> >
> > Don't kid us, Dan. Close your fucking relays (not that any of them talk to
> > my hosts anyhow). If this has to be drummed into your bonehead again: THEY
> > WILL FIND YOUR RELAYS ON THEIR OWN, AND THEY WILL ABUSE THEM, NO MATTER
> > HOW LOUD YOU SCREAM. THEY SIT IN CHINA, PAKISTAN AND KOREA, AND THERE IS
> > NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THEM SHORT OF CALLING THE WHITEHOUSE AND GETTING
> > THESE PLACES INVADED. Alternatively, you could come to your senses and
> > shut the literal front door of your house now that you've finally noticed
> > the first unsavory characters passing by. A couple years after the rest
> > of us, no doubt.
> >
> > And they won't need ORBS or any other service to locate you, either.
> > Stop complaining. No more secrets (now that's from Scott Yelich's tagline).
> >
> > bye,Kai
> >
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