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Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups
From: johnl () iecc com (John R. Levine)
Date: 21 Aug 2000 23:27:40 -0400
Once upon a time, Barry Shein <bzs () world std com> said:Is there any reasonable way to tell these ORBS and MAPS losers "possibly good intentions, but so badly run that: no thanks" from the net administrator community.MAPS people are not "losers" IMHO. They don't actively scan for problem hosts; they only check a host _after_ a supposed spam has been relayed through a host.
Quite right. MAPS also runs the very useful MAPS DUL that lists address ranges used for dynamic dialups. The RSS (the open relay thing) won't even test addresses in the DUL. The DUL is a very effective anti-spam filter with very few false positives, since hardly anyone other than spammers sends mail directly from dialups without relaying through their own ISP's mail server. I get the occasional whine from Linux users who think their sendmail setup is so cool they don't want to dirty it with a smarthost line, but they're easy to ignore. -- John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869 johnl () iecc com, Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail
Current thread:
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups, (continued)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups J.D. Falk (Aug 22)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Barry Shein (Aug 22)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups John Payne (Aug 22)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Peter van Dijk (Aug 23)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Barry Shein (Aug 22)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Shawn McMahon (Aug 22)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 22)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Derek J. Balling (Aug 22)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Leo Bicknell (Aug 23)
- Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Barry Shein (Aug 21)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Chris Adams (Aug 21)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups John R. Levine (Aug 21)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Brian Wallingford (Aug 21)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Steve Sobol (Aug 21)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Chris Adams (Aug 21)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Steve Sobol (Aug 21)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups Chris Adams (Aug 22)
- Re: Now the idiots at ORBS are probing random dial-ups J.D. Falk (Aug 22)