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RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?
From: woods () weird com (Greg A. Woods)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
[ On Saturday, July 8, 2000 at 21:24:28 (-0700), Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: ]
Subject: RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? I agree. MHSC lost an entire market plan, hosting third-party secure mail, becasue third-party mail services must allow relaying that is at minimum semi-open. At the time SMTP AUTH didn't exist (Until it's use becomes more wide-spread it still isn't real useful).
Too bad for them -- they could easily have implemented any one of a half dozen available solutions that would have allowed success. SMTP AUTH is only one of the possibilities and even if it's the best one it's not worth worrying over if it's not viable. Use one of the other viable solutions and you can be in business today!
The anti-relay bunch are killing a valid business model.
That's completely untrue. Those are very poor excuses to use when they result in presenting very real risks to the entire Internet as a whole.
Even for internal use, we have staff, on client-site, that need to send/recieve their mail from our servers, even when their lap-top is DHCP attached to another net-block.
VPNs are child's play now, and inexpensive to deploy. Please use them!
Every week we find ourselves having to open the relays more and more. Next week, I am travelling to the EU on business. That's yet more net-blocks that I have to allow relaying from.
That's idiotic. Please use the tools at your disposal instead of increasing the risk you present to the entire Internet as a whole! -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP <gwoods () acm org> <robohack!woods> Planix, Inc. <woods () planix com>; Secrets of the Weird <woods () weird com>
Current thread:
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?, (continued)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Roeland M.J. Meyer (Jul 10)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Shawn McMahon (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Shawn McMahon (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Shawn McMahon (Jul 10)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 10)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Shawn McMahon (Jul 10)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 10)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 09)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Hal Murray (Jul 09)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Randy Bush (Jul 09)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 09)
- RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? jlewis (Jul 09)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Shawn McMahon (Jul 10)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? John Fraizer (Jul 10)
- Re: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? Greg A. Woods (Jul 10)