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Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes)
From: Vadim Antonov <avg () exigengroup com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:57:27 -0700 (PDT)
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Leo Bicknell wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 03:44:56PM -0700, Vadim Antonov wrote:Your average PC doesn't have to be NEBS-compliant, doesn't have to work more than 24 hours w/o crashing, and doesn't have quite strict constraints on power & heat dissipation. It doesn't have to have redundant power, and its components are readily available and cheap (those are produced in _large_ batches).I'm going to poke Vadim a bit. :-)
You're welcome :)
If you're building a multi-bay router (a la a number of new designs) why not use a bay for the general purpose functions? Specifically something like a sun E10000, or HP v-class (to illustrate top of the line but off the shelf) connected into the fabric? Why even try to build the processing on a board (with all the power and heat constraints) for a system that large (say 16 bays)?
:) That was in the original Pluris presentations. Then the race against competition forced to go to specialized design. Density & power parameters were simply uncompetitive for off-the-shelf parts-only designs, as compared to large Cisco and Juniper boxes. However, the way Pluris optical fabric is designed, it is easy to add lower-capacity bays to existing routers (i.e. not 12Gbps/card slot, but, say, 12Gbps/bay); and I think we'll see hybrid router/server farms in the future.
For the record, big, multi-rack but "single management" routers make me nervous.
Cannot say about other designs, but Pluris has distributed redundant control (i.e. each bay has its own control cards). This is no different from the redundancy point of view from clustered routers. A lot more manageable, though, since all those controller cards are synchronized configuration-wise. --vadim
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- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes), (continued)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Leo Bicknell (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Sean M. Doran (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Vadim Antonov (Aug 29)
- RE: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Martin, Christian (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) David Lesher (Aug 29)
- RE: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Roeland Meyer (Aug 29)
- RE: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Alex Bligh (Aug 29)
- RE: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Vadim Antonov (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Leo Bicknell (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Vadim Antonov (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Leo Bicknell (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Vadim Antonov (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) David Luyer (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Andrew Partan (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Vadim Antonov (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Andrew Partan (Aug 29)
- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Vadim Antonov (Aug 29)
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- Re: What is the limit? (was RE: multi-homing fixes) Daniel Senie (Aug 29)