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MIX status (Re: New NAP Opening in Miami this week)


From: Christian Kuhtz <ck () arch bellsouth net>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:47:56 -0400



Hey gang,

perhaps I can add a little value to this conversation.  Dave Diaz's is
indeed correct, and Dan Golding ought to check his sources.

What's the status?

        In terms of core infrastructure, all 4 nodes are up and
        operational.  Yes, we are taking orders.

        Merit is installing RA software today, there was a delay with the 
        agreement between Merit and us.  Last info I have is that the plan
        is to have public peering available in about a week or thereabouts.

        What else would you like to know?

Where can you get more info?

        I'm told that info () bellsouthmix com or 1.866.554.6554 is a good
        place to go for further info (and check the website, too).  Please
        let me know if there's something glaringly missing.

        You can also contact me directly with any questions you may have
        and I'll try to answer them or find somebody who can.

I think there's still quite a bit of confusion about services offered thru
the MIX.  And there's a on-going effort to try to compare the MIX to NOTA
as an apples to apples comparison.  

Well, it's really not that simple.  Sorry.

Go ahead, and blame us engineers for trying to come up with something cool, 
different, and innovative. ;-)

Cheers,
Chris

--
Christian Kuhtz <ck () arch bellsouth net> -wk, <ck () gnu org> -hm
Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net, Atlanta, GA, U.S.
"I speak for myself only.""

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:53:50PM -0400, David S. Diaz wrote:

My mistake, the RA is hot as or today at the Mix.  I was just 
corrected off list.


-----
Actually Bellsouth is hot.  I have been to the sites.  The fibre is 
and hot.  Im sure there are things like the RA that may not be hot 
yet if that is what is being referred to.  It's a good network with 
fibre from different carries on diverse routes.  The interesting 
prospect I think is that since they have nodes in locations like W. 
Palm Beach and Ft. Lauderdale (not just miami) your local loop from 
these areas would be significantly cheaper than running to that other 
NAP in Miami.  This may be attractive for carriers or backbones in 
that area.  The Mix nodes are also located at locations like 
transoceanic fibre nodes.  Since it's a layer 1 network also, geeez 
maybe it's good for cheap transport.

I think the NOTA building that was built was built well.  32ft is not 
bad for florida at all.  It seems like a fine colo with one concern, 
it's in an evacation area.  Which means u need to have key people 
there before the storm restrictions kick in or they arent getting 
there.  As we know, no one gets rich building a nap, this is model 
plans on making money from colo space which is also tough right now. 
The other model is a, hey we dont care where u are at, use us for 
peering and hmmm we can do wave service and local loops and whatever 
else you can come up with for a dwdm/optical switched core network.

It is going to be interesting to see how both naps evolve and develop 
differentiating services.

One negative with the mix-nap is that they used blue and orange 
colors, Univ of Florida, for their tshirts. What an insult :-)

dave

At 4:10 PM -0400 6/28/01, Daniel Golding wrote:
AFAIK, the Bellsouth MIX is a long way from operation.

- Daniel Golding

 -----Original Message-----
 From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
 Mark Borchers
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:45 PM
 To: nanog () merit edu
 Subject: RE: New NAP Opening in Miami this week



 Two, actually.  Refer to http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0102/florida.html
 <http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0102/florida.html>
 

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Larry Diffey [mailto:ldiffey () technologyforward com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:41 PM
 To: nanog () merit edu
 Subject: New NAP Opening in Miami this week


 According to this story
 <http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2779717,00.html>  on
 zdnet, there is a large NAP opening this week in Miami.  This NAP will
 primarily be used to pipe traffic to and from Latin and South America.
 >
 > The facility is a whopping 32 feet above sea level!
 >



-- 
Christian Kuhtz <ck () arch bellsouth net> -wk, <ck () gnu org> -hm
Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net, Atlanta, GA, U.S.
"I speak for myself only.""


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