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Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play


From: Anne Marcel <marcel () our domaintje com>
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:15:53 +0100 (CET)



Hi,

  This doesn't look like a root hijack, but more like the preperations for 
a hostile take over of part of the domain name system.

  All that's missing are the free services offered under the new naming
scheme and some marketing hype.

  Once they manage to get a large established user base they will probably
turn to ICANN to try and 'negotiate' a merger of both DNS trees.

  Or perhaps I'm just being paranoid.

- marcel

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Kevin Loch wrote:


Actually they are not just subdomains of new.net.
What it looks like is an attempt to make the
UltraDNS network the new root.

udns1.ultradns.net returns an A record for pie.shop
just like udns1.newdotnet.net.

I suspect that all UltraDNS servers return queries
for these alternate TLD's.

The more I look at this the more it looks like
an good old fasioned root hijack.  The difference 
this time is they already have the network of servers,
and they already have some ISPs lined up.

I'm not passing judgement on wether it's good or not,
but let's call it as it is.

KL

Joe Provo wrote:
not actually adding any new TLDs? Aside from the misrepresentation of it
being anythign other than subdomains in their zone, it is a good thing.
Of course, that misrepresentation is slimy, will cause confusion if and
when any of those *.new.net zones match new TLDs, and is the hallmark of
shysters. I think the comments about EK and Balkanizing are spot on, but
the only tell half the story; this is also about duping of the masses
at the end of the pipe.








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