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Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play


From: <mdevney () teamsphere com>
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:35:55 -0800 (PST)



Just at first glance, it doesn't seem too hard to set this up... They'd
need their own root servers, then their "partner networks" would have to
change their setting for the "." domain.  Looks like (depending on number
of root servers) a day's work for new.net and 5 minutes per name server
for their "partner networks".  Not a very hard thing to do.  

So their plugin, then, probably appends a new.net name server to your name
server list, or does something funky to your browser to make it query a
different name server.  Not too much dinking about with your settings,
then.  

I dunno, just seems like a very easy thing to do, not worth too much
hype.  Though the fact that there's market demand and ICANN isn't stepping
in to fill it is somewhat disturbing...

Matthew Devney


On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Brian wrote:

Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:59:48 -0800
From: Brian <bri () sonicboom org>
To: nanog <nanog () merit edu>
Subject: Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play


Here's the part of new.net that seems not well thought out.  So if you don't
wanna dink with system settings to be an end user, and are not on a partner
network, then too bad, is that what I appear to be seeing?

2. Are there differences between how New.net domain names and .COM/.NET/.ORG
domain names work?
There are some differences, but in many ways the domain names work the same.

One difference is that in order for people to see New.net domain names they
must be either accessing the Internet through one of our many ISP partners
or they must have downloaded and installed our Web browser plug-in.

If either one of these requirements is met, then New.net domains will work
just as you are used to .com and .net domains working.

3. Who is helping to shape New.net?
New.net has many partners who are working with us to make New.net domains
widely recognized around the world. Some of our current partners include:
Earthlink, NetZero, Excite@Home, .KIDS Domains, Inc., and MP3.com.

    Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Wallingford" <brian () meganet net>
To: "Patrick Greenwell" <patrick () cybernothing org>
Cc: "Paul A Vixie" <vixie () mfnx net>; <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: new.net: yet another dns namespace overlay play



On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Patrick Greenwell wrote:

:
:On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Paul A Vixie wrote:
:
:>
:> [ this came from http://www.new.net/about_us_press.tp and appears not
to be
:>   a joke.  its operational impact will not be felt today, but if it's
even
:>   moderately popular before it dies, operational impact WILL be felt.
i'm
:>   quite surprised by some of the folks they list as their
artners.  --vix ]
:
:Too bad ICANN has been such a complete and utter failure that an
:organization felt it necessary to start such a business, huh?

Sounds like this was driven more by carelessness and greed than by
necessity.









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