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RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 02:50:45 -0700
From: Adam McKenna [mailto:adam () flounder net] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:23 AM On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:42:54AM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:Oracle (try and build a DB without reverse working right.Net8 stops youdead in your tracks).Sorry, but this is just 100% wrong. I've set up Oracle on many boxes and you don't need any DNS at all to set up an oracle DB. In fact, I tell our DBA's to use IP addresses in their TNSNAMES.ORA files because I don't want the DB depending on DNS.Let's see, I don't want to make my DBs dependent on DNS, soI use IP addrs.Yet, I can't depend on IP addrs because my upstream might have to be changed... damn, I shouldn't have depended on my scumbagDSL upstream, eh? I believe we've been through this discussion before.
Yeah, you and I keep dancing around the same bush. My point is that, nothing is real good by you. One day, names are no good and later, addrs are no good. That's a flip-flop worthy of Bill Clinton. Looking at each specific case, you come up with answers, which may be absolutely the best answer for that case, which may also absolutely contradict another specific case. But, since the two of them are invariably conjoined, you have two contradictory and mutually exclusive answers... for the same thing. Therein, lays my frustration.
Gee, maybe I should have had a names based system afterall? Either way, Iwind up having to rebuild Oracle boxen and applicationservers, every timesomebody farts. Just what in blue hell are we supposed to do?Maybe you should get a clue, or hire someone who has one.
Tried both, it appears non-soluble, at the moment.
BTW, the last I checked SSL certs are usually names based.Pretty slacksecurity, eh?Yes. See http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/bugtraq/19991114052453-12962-qmail@cr-yp-to and http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/forgery.html
Read the caveats.
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- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Vivien M. (May 15)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Shawn McMahon (May 15)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Brett Frankenberger (May 17)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Shawn McMahon (May 17)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS David Charlap (May 17)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Pyda Srisuresh (May 15)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Eric A. Hall (May 15)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS John Fraizer (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Dominic J. Eidson (May 14)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Adam McKenna (May 14)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Adam Rothschild (May 14)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS bmanning (May 14)
- Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Hunter Pine (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS Vivien M. (May 14)
- RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS John Fraizer (May 15)