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Re: Stealth Blocking
From: Mitch Halmu <mitch () netside net>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:39:53 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 23 May 2001, J.D. Falk wrote:
You're blocking MAPS' test, but you leave your server open to relay from just about anywhere else. Perhaps the error message they gave you was unclear, but it should be fairly obvious that if you want to get off the list, you have to close the relay.
'Just about anywhere else' is a gross exaggeration. We currently block over 3000 entries, from class B's to individual ips. As an example, all of uu.net dial-ins, but NOT their SMTP servers. As another example, BellSouth is the ILEC here, so many of our customers hold a dsl account from them as well as a dial-up or domain with us. We can't block their ips. Some of these customers keep their accounts because of the email address they had with NetSide for years. And no, reselling dsl from BellSouth is not a viable economical option.
MAPS isn't "forcing" you to do anything, you know. You're very welcome to continue to leave it open. And, likewise, everyone else is equally welcome to block all mail from your server, with or without MAPS' easy removal process. -- J.D. Falk SILENCE IS FOO! <jdfalk () cybernothing org>
Do you speak as a MAPS official, JD? Thought you held the title of MAPS Product Manager. The forcing part comes with the conditions you attach. They may hear your call and tighten the blockade. Then again, some may start thinking independently... It is not the integrity of our server, it's the deviant line from your prescriptions that hurts here. Perhaps it's time an ISP questions your authority to make the rules. Risking our neck, just like that. While I respect your convictions and even ideals, I am strongly questioning your methods by which you implement them. You are still treating our company like some rogue .cn domain. One shoe fits all. --Mitch NetSide
Current thread:
- Re: Stealth Blocking, (continued)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Jeremy T. Bouse (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Paul Vixie (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking John Payne (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking John Payne (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking Scott Raymond (May 25)
- RE: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 25)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Andy (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking J.D. Falk (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Mitch Halmu (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Shawn McMahon (May 24)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Scott Francis (May 23)
- RE: Stealth Blocking David Schwartz (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Robert Sharp (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Robert Sharp (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Valdis . Kletnieks (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Robert Sharp (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Margie Arbon (May 23)
- Re: Stealth Blocking Aaron L. Meehan (May 23)