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RE: EMAIL != FTP
From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 12:58:14 -0700
From: Rowland, Alan D [mailto:alan_r1 () corp earthlink net] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:21 PM
<snip> At $99 per 40GB HDD, there is no excuse for lack of space. <snip> And the source for this price point for a SPARC server would be?
http://208.56.182.73/Products___Solutions/Appliances_Overview/R-Series_Main/ r-series_main.html That's at $20K per TB and quad PIII-1GHz are faster than quad SPARCs, for the money.
40GB also doesn't scale well to 5,000,000 users.
Do you have 5M users?
So let's say we double our user's boxes from 10MB to 20MB. 10MB X 5,000,000 = 50TB (assuming only one mail box per customer, more like two plus in the real world so you might consider trebling the following figures in the real world) 50TB/40GB = 1,250 HDD X $99 = $123,750 (at your PC price) plus the not inconsiderable cost of the servers/raids to hold them and staff to administer/maintain them. My WAG (wild ass guess) would place the true multiple E-mail box/user cost at about $1/customer/month; close to, if not more than, most ISP's profit margin. (Profit, what profit?)
Let's take your user figures and the RAIDZONE prices; 50TB x $20K = $1M $1M / 5M = $0.20 (20 cents per user, or 2 cents per MB) If you can't make "keystone" then that's a clear indication that your market will not support the service.
Now if we can just get the marketing folk to do a study to see if our customers would be willing to pay that additional $1/month to fund this in a market where more and more providers are offer additional
"free" mail
boxes...
Many of those "free" email boxen are underwritten by advertising revenue. In case you hadn't noticed, that market is collapsing. Others are bundeling that service with other services. Incremental cost factors still contribute to COGs and COGs should be no mkore than 60% of retail price, or you shouldn't be offering the service. No wonder many ISPs are going under.
Current thread:
- RE: EMAIL != FTP Robert Blayzor (May 25)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: EMAIL != FTP Roeland Meyer (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Wojtek Zlobicki (May 25)
- RE: EMAIL != FTP Roeland Meyer (May 25)
- RE: EMAIL != FTP Rowland, Alan D (May 25)
- RE: EMAIL != FTP Roeland Meyer (May 25)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Richard A. Steenbergen (May 25)
- RE: EMAIL != FTP Roeland Meyer (May 26)
- RE: EMAIL != FTP Stephen J. Wilcox (May 26)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Wojtek Zlobicki (May 26)
- RE: EMAIL != FTP Roeland Meyer (May 26)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Adam Rothschild (May 26)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Mitch Halmu (May 26)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP John Fraizer (May 26)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Mitch Halmu (May 26)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Valdis . Kletnieks (May 26)
- Re: EMAIL != FTP Adam Rothschild (May 26)