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Re: a question about the economics of peering
From: Giles Heron <giles () packetexchange net>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:38:03 +0000
"David R. Dick" wrote:
Today, I was approached by *unnamed-ethernet-extension-company*. They extend ethernets between several US and UK peering exchanges. While speaking with them today, thier engineer and I got into a little bit of a disagreement as to why people peer with each other at public exchange points. My belief is that generally speaking, networks meet at public exchange points (such as MAE-*, LINX, AMSIX, AADS, etc) is to exchange traffic with each other more economically (read: save money). His belief is that people will pay a premium to get to an exchange point, because it's worth paying a premium to have 'less hops' between two networks.The problem with this idea is that public exchange points need to be *avoided* when they get too congested. People may start out trying to minimize number of hops, but I think they eventually try to minimize total latency.
but what if the *unnamed-ethernet-extension-company* wasn't providing access to public exchange points, but was rather enabling uncongested private peering over its network? That way latency and hop count are both mimimised. BTW, public IXen in Europe don't tend to be congested. Whether this is the result of better management, or of lower traffic volumes, than IXen in the US I'm not sure... Giles
Essentially, he said that paying more for peering that for transit is typical, and to be expected, and most people accept this. Whats the common opinion on this?
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