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Re: Verio Peering Question
From: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa () samurai sfo dead-dog com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:57:10 -0700
On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 12:31:53PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Then again, I can see from below that you obviously do not understand the implications of this filtering policy.
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Because of my small need for IP space, none of the IP registries will give me my own /20 (or whatever). However, ARIN will not complain if one of my upstreams SWIPs a /24 to me, even if I do not require an entire /24. I announce that /24 to both my upstreams. If that /24 is filtered by all backbones, my second connection to the Internet is essentially useless, a waste of money.
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Do you now understand why "filtering == forcing small providers / businesses to single home"? If anything was not clear, please contact me off list and I shall try to explain further.
Actually, it seems to me that your argument is that ARIN/RIPE/APNIC policy prevents people from multihoming. In the past, when new allocations have been opened or allocation policy has been redefined (say, from /19 to /20), Verio's filters have changed accordingly. If the regional registry's policy is the problem, fix that policy, and I think that you'd find Verio's filters would also change. Randy has stated on more than one occaision (back when he worked for Verio) that he would listen to loose /24's within the proper ranges if the registrys would develop a workable microallocation policy. Blaming Verio for the RIR's allocation policy simply does not make sense. --msa
Current thread:
- Re: Verio Peering Question, (continued)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Lucy E. Lynch (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Rob Thomas (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Dorian Kim (Sep 27)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Majdi S. Abbas (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Sean Donelan (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Alex Bligh (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Majdi S. Abbas (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Chris Parker (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Steve Gibbard (Sep 28)
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- Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 28)
- Re: Verio Peering Question Alex Bligh (Sep 28)
- RE: Verio Peering Question Daniel Golding (Sep 28)
- The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question Joseph T. Klein (Sep 28)
- Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 28)
- Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question Paul Vixie (Sep 28)
- Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 28)