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Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth


From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <ragnar () jazzfree com>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 02:35:33 +0100


On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 01:44:53PM +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Stephen Stuart wrote:

The topic being discussed is to try to reduce USENET bandwidth. One
way to do that is to pass pointers around instead of complete
articles. If the USENET distribution system passed pointers to
articles around instead of the actual articles themselves, sites could
then "self-tune" their spools to the content that their readers (the
"users") found interesting (fetch articles from a source that offered
to actually spool them), either by pre-fetching or fetching on-demand,
but still have access to the "total accumulated wisdom" of USENET -
and maybe it wouldn't need to be reposted every week, because sites
could also offer value to their "users" on the publishing side by
offering to publish their content longer.

I'm a bit behind on reading the NANOG list, so excuse the late reply.

If we can really build such a beast, this would be extremely cool. The
method of choice for publishing free information on the Net is WWW these
days. But it doesn't work very well, since there is no direct relationship
between an URL and the published text or file. So people will use a "far
away" URL because they don't know the same file can be found much closer,
and URLs tend to break after a while.

I've thought about this for quite a while, and even written down a good
deal of them. If you're interested:

http://www.muada.com/projects/usenet.txt

You might want to have a look at the freenet project, If you haven't.  Some
time ago there were ideas floating around about NNTP over Freenet.  It gets
quite close to what you are describing (modulo freedom;)

        http://freenetproject.org

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