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Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth
From: Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <ragnar () jazzfree com>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 02:35:33 +0100
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 01:44:53PM +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Stephen Stuart wrote:The topic being discussed is to try to reduce USENET bandwidth. One way to do that is to pass pointers around instead of complete articles. If the USENET distribution system passed pointers to articles around instead of the actual articles themselves, sites could then "self-tune" their spools to the content that their readers (the "users") found interesting (fetch articles from a source that offered to actually spool them), either by pre-fetching or fetching on-demand, but still have access to the "total accumulated wisdom" of USENET - and maybe it wouldn't need to be reposted every week, because sites could also offer value to their "users" on the publishing side by offering to publish their content longer.I'm a bit behind on reading the NANOG list, so excuse the late reply. If we can really build such a beast, this would be extremely cool. The method of choice for publishing free information on the Net is WWW these days. But it doesn't work very well, since there is no direct relationship between an URL and the published text or file. So people will use a "far away" URL because they don't know the same file can be found much closer, and URLs tend to break after a while. I've thought about this for quite a while, and even written down a good deal of them. If you're interested: http://www.muada.com/projects/usenet.txt
You might want to have a look at the freenet project, If you haven't. Some time ago there were ideas floating around about NNTP over Freenet. It gets quite close to what you are describing (modulo freedom;) http://freenetproject.org -- ____/| Ragnar Højland Freedom - Linux - OpenGL | Brainbench MVP \ o.O| PGP94C4B2F0D27DE025BE2302C104B78C56 B72F0822 | for Unix Programming =(_)= "Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer for | (www.brainbench.com) U chaos and madness await thee at its end." [8 pend. Mar 10]
Current thread:
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth, (continued)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Stephen Sprunk (Feb 08)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Vadim Antonov (Feb 08)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Stephen Stuart (Feb 08)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Michael Painter (Feb 08)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth David Charlap (Feb 08)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth David Schwartz (Feb 08)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Michael Painter (Feb 08)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Stephen Stuart (Feb 08)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth R.P. Aditya (Feb 08)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 17)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Ragnar Hojland Espinosa (Feb 17)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Eliot Lear (Feb 17)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 17)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Eliot Lear (Feb 17)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Simon Lyall (Feb 03)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 04)
- Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth James Fidell (Feb 03)