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Re: routing table size


From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () opaltelecom co uk>
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:48:13 +0100 (BST)



On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, David Schwartz wrote:


On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:04:02 +0100 (BST), Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:

I've a feeling that the fact that everyone shares at least the view that a
/24
is minimum helps to contain the routing table. (even if there are still
thousands of /24 announcements)

If a significant number of providers starting accepting any prefix then the
others would need to follow (else they'd get no transit traffic as it will
always prefer the most specific). This really would lead to route explosion!

I guess the counter argument is that you'd still get the same number of
announcements at longer prefixes as there are only lots of /24s as its the
current shortest (if you catch my drift here). But I doubt it is quite that
straight forward and there would be a growth in announcements..

Steve

      My point is simply that only those who felt the /32s were worth carrying
would carry them. And those who chose to announce them would have to factor
the effects of selective carrying into their decisions. But nobody would be
imposing any unwanted costs on anyone else.

Yes, you said that before and my above comments still apply!

      That's the difference. Nothing you can possibly do with a customer can
impose unwanted costs on you or the customer. If you don't want the costs,
don't do it. If the customer won't pay you the cost of doing it, don't do it.
it's only in the relationship between ISPs and non-customers that there's a
pollution and inequitable cost distribution issue.

But it costs me nothing to accept my customers announcements.... ?

      Practicing what you preach does not require treating fundamentally different
situations as the same.

How is it different? The cash (customer) bit isnt relevant.. its how many
providers allow it which is.

Steve


      DS





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