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Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT
From: "David Howe" <DaveHowe () gmx co uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 17:15:08 +0100
"Leo Bicknell" <bicknell () ufp org> illuminated our understanding with:
In a message written on Wed, Jul 10, 2002 David Howe wrote:I think the point is people with non-compliant maillers delete mails with attachments and no body on sight... sometimes, in an automated rule. If you don't care that a percentage of your recipients don't everOk, I tried to stay out of this one, but this comment made me feel I have to jump in. I'm all against attachments, file attachments. Just because a message is MIME encoded, does not mean it is a file though. If people are throwing away MIME messages with a single "text/plain" section then they are firmly in the wrong. All of the "modern" text and GUI mailers display this properly, inline, as a plain old text message.
Yup - I am not defending M$'s crapware here; any decent mail client written in the last few years should at least show the text inline and the sig as an attachment. What I am trying to say is it isn't a good defense to say "oh, but its an RFC and my client can handle it, so yours is broken". A documented abomination (and M$'s crapware handles that abomination I came up with just fine) is still an abomination. However, I try to avoid any sort of attachment or mime encoding for mailing lists - simply because it can be badly broken by the list itself (some lists strip attachments, leaving an uninteresting blank message when you try to use pgp mime; some people read in digest mode which is why attachments are stripped, and so forth). pgp mime avoids taking up message body space with the signature (which in most cases can be four times the size of the message) so is a good thing - but that doesn't mean that you should openly insult anyone whose software doesn't include this feature. smtp works best with plaintext ascii-7; anything else is a bonus, but shouldn't be mandatory.
Current thread:
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in ATT attachments. Its annoying and no one can see your message, (continued)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in ATT attachments. Its annoying and no one can see your message Pawlukiewicz Jane (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in ATT attachments. David Lesher (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in ATT attachments. Its annoying and no one can see your message Matthew S. Hallacy (Jul 12)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Bill Thompson (Jul 09)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT JC Dill (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Eric A. Hall (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT David Howe (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Leo Bicknell (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Stephen Sprunk (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Scott Francis (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT David Howe (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT JC Dill (Jul 10)
- Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Andy Dills (Jul 10)
- Evil PGP sigs thread must die. was Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Joseph T. Klein (Jul 10)
- Re: Evil PGP sigs thread must die. was Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Andy Dills (Jul 10)
- Re: Evil PGP sigs thread must die. was Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Scott Francis (Jul 10)
- Re: Evil PGP sigs thread must die. was Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Joseph T. Klein (Jul 10)
- Re: Evil PGP sigs thread must die. was Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Brad Knowles (Jul 15)
- Re: Evil PGP sigs thread must die. was Re: Stop it with putting your e-mail body in my MUA OT Andy Dills (Jul 15)
- PGP: learn it, use it, love it Scott Francis (Jul 15)
- Re: PGP: learn it, use it, love it Bradley Dunn (Jul 15)