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Re: Notes on the Internet for Bell Heads
From: Joe Abley <jabley () automagic org>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:50:58 -0700
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 08:24:38PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
Yes, several people mentioned that the two groups should just maintain their seperate ways. There is this thing called convergence.
I know a small number of operators with really talented and dedicated architecture people who have made converged networks work, and have in consequence both reduced their costs and increased the number of products they are able to offer. I know way more operators with really talented and dedicated architecture people who are preaching the gospel of convergence, and investing in new equipment to support it, and are having their efforts sabotaged at every turn by voice and data people who have closed ranks and are defending their respective empires. These operators wind up having to operate three networks (data, voice and data+voice), with correspondingly increased operational costs. The interop issues (both operational and architectural) between the three networks increase complexity, reducing the chance that any convergence products ever come to market, neatly and efficiently defeating the entire point of the initial exercise.
How do you explain Internet security to a telco engineer.
You change the subject and make him feel good about his voice switches until he wanders away and loses interest in bothering you. Joe
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