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Re: SPEWS?
From: <william () elan net>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:11:27 -0700 (PDT)
But there is intermediate altenative - create organization with all isps as its members (kind of like ARIN/APNIC/RIPE for mail service providers) and have all downstream corporate customers be required to either also be member of this organization or relay email through its isp. Do note thatI'm *sure* that our connectivity provider will want us to forward us several million pieces of email a day, just so they can forward it along, if we decided to not join. So we have our choices of joining (probably with a membership fee), letting a provider that probably doesn't want our load relay our mail (and that will cost *them* money for a mail server hefty enough to do it), or filter port 25 because we didn't pay...
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of autentication with using SSL certicates for authentication of mail servers from member.Administering large list is a nightmare so its easier that initial or direct member get certicare from root organization and then members can themselve issue (and revoke) a certificate to large enough customers with a backroute that if mailserver does not accept your certificate, you can send email through upstream.
Looks like a good candidate for getting sued via RICO. "An offer you can't refused". Hmm...
This one I agree, serious legal problems that will arise due to large marketing houses and some free-speach groups will need to be worked out. But if there are anti-SPAM laws on country-level on majority of the world and most isps agree that to some kind of mediation organization, this can be overcome. --- William Leibzon Elan Communications Inc.
Current thread:
- Re: SPEWS?, (continued)
- Re: SPEWS? David Lesher (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? Chrisy Luke (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? Dan Hollis (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? Steven J. Sobol (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? Steven J. Sobol (Jun 20)
- chinanet cleanup? blitz (Jun 21)
- Re: SPEWS? william (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? Chrisy Luke (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? william (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? Dave Israel (Jun 20)
- Null Routing Spews (Re: SPEWS?) Drew Linsalata (Jun 21)
- Re: SPEWS? Steven J. Sobol (Jun 20)
- RE: SPEWS? Geo. (Jun 20)
- RE: SPEWS? Stephen J. Wilcox (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? John Payne (Jun 20)
- Re: SPEWS? Geo. (Jun 20)
- e-mail blacklists (was Re: SPEWS?) J.D. Falk (Jun 20)
- Re: e-mail blacklists (was Re: SPEWS?) measl (Jun 20)
- Re: e-mail blacklists (was Re: SPEWS?) jlewis (Jun 20)