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RE: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under (was RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions)
From: "Kyle C. Bacon" <kbacon () fnsi net>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:38:14 -0400
We have two POP's and a colo in Detroit. One in Southfield, one in Troy, both on the North side of Detroit. FNSI -> http://www.fnsi.net If anyone is looking for reliable access from a profitable regional player, I'll volunteer. :) K Paul Timmins <paul@timmins To: Brian <bri () sonicboom org> .net> cc: Deepak Jain <deepak () ai net>, jpalmer () utilinc com, nanog () nanog org Sent by: Subject: RE: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under (was owner-nanog@m RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions) erit.edu 05/30/2002 08:00 PM As far as I know, the following national providers exist in Detroit: (This is by no means, a complete list, and some of these aren't "Big Name" providers, but less likely to go under than John Q Random ISP) Verio Winstar XO AT&T Qwest Covad Level 3 SBC I've heard rumors of speakeasy.net, which I think resells internap I'm sure there's a few other national networks, these are just the ones I have heard of off the top of my head. -Paul On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 19:27, Brian wrote:
Surprised there isnt much connectivity in the Detroit area, I mean it is Motor City and all, I would think tons of manufacturing palnts all
needing
telecom of some sort or other.. Bri On Thu, 30 May 2002, Deepak Jain wrote:Clearly anyone in your market is buying from someone outside of your
market.
The fees associated with reliability (if available) are a function of
your
geography. Large providers are concentrating on the markets that are
making
them the most money. If you get a few networks in your area that want to save money on the
cost
of reliability you can run a couple of circuits to the next large
market and
try to knit together a reliable network and divide the costs that way. My guess is that with more large providers on a profit-centered basis
you
won't see the same kind of pricing equality you have been seeing
between
Tier 1 and Tier N markets anymore. Deepak Jain AiNET -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of John Palmer Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:39 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: RE: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under (was RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions) Its just that they aren't local and there is no need to pay for a circuit all the way to Chicago. It seems that so many providers have moved out of Macomb county. Anyone have any experience with BigNet? We are talking to them now -----Original Message----- From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:woody () zocalo net] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:42 PM To: John Palmer Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under (was RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions) > Who can one rely on for connectivity? In general and in the
Detroit
area? > I put out a request for bids on T-1's and all the national
providers
were > way too high... Haven't you just answered your own question? I guess if you think reliable service is too expensive, you're not in the market for
reliable
service, no? -Bill
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- RE: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under (was RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions) Kyle C. Bacon (May 31)