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RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT?
From: "Gary E. Miller" <gem () rellim com>
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:59:43 -0700 (PDT)
Yo Jon! On Thu, 2 May 2002, Mansey, Jon wrote:
To merge these 2 great threads, it is the case is it not that NAT is a great way to avoid DDOS problems. I don't even want to imagine what the billing/credit issues would be like if your always-on phone with a real IP is used as a zombie in a DDOS. "Hey I didn't use all that traffic last month....etc etc"
Who says a NATed host can not be a zombie? Get the NATed host to read an email virus. The virus then coonects to an IRC channel that tells the zombie when to spew. Each phone would not spew much, but imagine you got 100M phones to do your DDoS for you... RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem () rellim com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676
Current thread:
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Mansey, Jon (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Gary E. Miller (May 02)
- Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Alexei Roudnev (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Ian Cooper (May 02)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Daniska Tomas (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Mansey, Jon (May 02)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Gary E. Miller (May 02)
- Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Valdis . Kletnieks (May 02)
- Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Bradley Dunn (May 02)
- Re[2]: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Richard Welty (May 02)
- Re: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Alexei Roudnev (May 03)
- RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? Mansey, Jon (May 02)
(Thread continues...)