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Re: Interconnects


From: Scott Granados <scott () graphidelix net>
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 14:05:24 -0700 (PDT)


One thing to remember with New York in general.  I have personal 
experience with dealing with pulling both copper and fiber in NY and its 
not just technical.  Although there are huge problems with pulling new 
services and fiber on a technical level.  Remember that most of the 
facilities were deployed in the 20's and 30's.  Also a large problem is 
it was my experience pay-offs and some limited bribes were required to 
have linemen complete their work.  A practical example of this was a t1 
which I was told would take 3 months to install, after some palms were 
greaced dropped to 2.5 weeks.  New York is a different animal all 
tgether.
On 17 May 2002, Paul Vixie wrote:


Actually, doesn't MFN usually outsource this to Bechtel, Keyspan
Communications and others? :)

I don't know.  It wouldn't change my position on the subject, which is
that it's their fiber, and in NYC it's a large and complex plant, and
they've got people working on the PAIX/NYIIX path who know a lot more
about fiber in general AND this plant in particular than I do.



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