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Re: Interconnects
From: Mitch Halmu <mitch () netside net>
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:19:21 -0400 (EDT)
On Sat, 18 May 2002, Mike Leber wrote:
Also, when considering where to locate equipment I can't help but remind the other person posting about MNFX (which isn't the same corporate entitiy as PAIX) that they should have posted (if they were going to bother to post that kind of thing, which doesn't make friends ;) similar press releases regarding their other choices, or perhaps considering whether the companies they consider alternatives are EBITDA postive (making a profit, or in otherwords will exist in 12 months) today (not in an imaginary planned future) or for the few that are EBITDA positive, whether they actually seem to want your business. PAIX, Palo Alto is another excellent exchange point. I'm sure you can probably get a rack now with all the bankruptcies. If not send me email.
At present, PAIX is owned by MFNX, and so is Abovenet. Arms-length or not, ultimately it's the same ailing giant with clay feet... The "other person posting" is glad to oblige by reposting a usenet news article written by an eyewitness who visited Metromedia Fiber/Abovenet's San Jose II co-lo facility. Consider it friendly fire from some anti-spam activist (credible source in your camp, if we were to believe the popular sentiment?):
From: spambait () petra dyndns org (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Abovenet/MFN dead at the switch Date: 23 Mar 2002 19:11:33 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 30 Message-ID: <slrna9pkr6.1eo.spambait () pk greens org> References: <8935cf7e.0203230809.30d2bfd1 () posting google com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-884.newsdawg.com X-Warning: I take time to damage spammers. User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) In article <8935cf7e.0203230809.30d2bfd1 () posting google com>, No spammage wrote:
Are there any humans at Above.net/MFN, or is it all spambotically controlled? I keep getting DirecTV spam for 208.185.127.162 (ofertadirectv.iwarp.com) and the ignorebot keeps telling me that Above.net is happy with the way it's been settled. Are they completely black hat?
I installed a server at their San Jose II co-lo in summer of 2000. It was a beehive, with full cages and people carting stuff in and lots of activity. The area where my ISP's rack was was nearly full. My ISP switched providers a year later, because Above's senior technical staff who had attracted them there had all left and the service had deteriorated badly. Almost all of the equipment in the cages around us had already been removed. The floor was really dirty and there was trash everywhere, it looked like the flea market when most of the vendors have left for the day. While I was waiting for my ISP to come and badge me in, I talked to the security guard. He said they'd recently laid off 30% and expected more. He also said he hadn't seen any customer bring any equipment into that facility in the last three months, but he saw people removing stuff daily. They're not black hat, they're empty hat. There's nobody left, and the last guy forgot to turn out the lights. Cameron
Current thread:
- Re: Interconnects, (continued)
- Re: Interconnects ren (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Ralph Doncaster (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Alex Rubenstein (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Mike Leber (May 18)
- EBITDA [was Re: Interconnects] Steve Gibbard (May 18)
- Re: EBITDA [was Re: Interconnects] Mike Leber (May 18)
- Re: EBITDA [was Re: Interconnects] Paul Vixie (May 18)
- Re: EBITDA [was Re: Interconnects] Chris Woodfield (May 20)
- Re: EBITDA [was Re: Interconnects] Valdis . Kletnieks (May 20)
- Re: EBITDA [was Re: Interconnects] Brian (May 20)
- Re: Interconnects Ralph Doncaster (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Mitch Halmu (May 18)
- Re: Interconnects ren (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects ren (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects todd glassey (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Scott Granados (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Mitch Halmu (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Stephen J. Wilcox (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Valdis . Kletnieks (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Stephen J. Wilcox (May 17)
- Re: Interconnects Mitch Halmu (May 17)