nanog mailing list archives

Re: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection


From: alex () yuriev com
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:04:07 -0400 (EDT)


Lets bring this discussion to a some common ground -

What kind of implact on the global internet would we see should we observe
nearly simultaneous detonation of 500 kilogramms of high explosives at N of the
major known interconnect facilities?

N? Well, if you define N as the number of interconnect facilities, such
as all the Equinix sites

Lets say that N is 4 and they are all in the US, for the sake of the
discussion.

Which four? Makes a big difference. And there, we just got
proprietary/classified. I've often wondered what difference there would
be in attacking cable heads instead of colo sites. Cut off the country
from everywhere. How bad would that be.

I was under the impression that OCS/Homeland Security had already done a
little study, perhaps aided by some other 3 letter agencies and some
Telco's, for this very thing. I was also under the impression that the
number of sites had to be sigificantly higher than 4 to do any real
damage.

That study probably came from the same people who believe that Echelon can
intercept every single email sent, in addition to every phone conversation
and fax. Bankruptcies of two fiber carriers showed rather clear that those
companies themselves do not know where do they have what and what depends on
what. 

(and I'm not banging on Equinix, it's just
where we started all this) then I think globally, it wouldn't make that
much difference. People in Tokyo would still be able to reach the globe
and both coasts of the US.

This presumes that the networks peer with the same AS numbers everywhere in
the world, which I dont think they do.

Hadn't thought of that. I'm not sure then of the impact.

Additionally, a majority of peering, big peering, isn't on public
exchanges is it? So, you'd have to find all the places that the larger
providers connect to eachother and perhaps target these. Even with this
there are the public exchanges so things 'should' fail over to them...

Interconnect sites are not public peering. It is simply a location where
the networks exchange traffic with each other. 

This was about the result I heard, you can easily cut out 'mom and pop'
ISP, but cutting out a large provider is a tougher task with bombs... we
already know its possible with the right routing 'update' :(

Tell it to those whose primary facility was in one tower of WTC and backup
facility in another.


Alex


Current thread: