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Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:18:59 +0200 (CEST)
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
It is more trouble than its worth. SPAM is not a technical problem. It is a social problem. Using technical methods is not going to solve the problem.
There are two saying that come to mind:
"You can't solve social problems with technical solutions"
That's what happens when you hang around with software engineers too long. They think all problems are solvable. And most problems, especially social ones, aren't: they need to be managed. Sure, you can't stop spam entirely by technical (or other) means, but that's no reason to ignore the problem and run an open relay.
"There are very few inter-personal problems that can't be solved by the suitable application of high explosives"
Sounds like a technical solution to me...
Spam is likely going to be a problem until we either hire some thug muscle from <pick ethnic organized crime group>, or the government does it for us...
Or we throw out SMTP and adopt a mail protocol that requires the sender to provide some credentials that can't be faked. Then known spammers are easy to blacklist.
Current thread:
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?, (continued)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Brad Knowles (Sep 17)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Scott Francis (Sep 18)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Paul Vixie (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Eliot Lear (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Rafi Sadowsky (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Eliot Lear (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Scott Francis (Sep 17)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? John M. Brown (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? alex (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Eliot Lear (Sep 09)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Vadim Antonov (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Vadim Antonov (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Rafi Sadowsky (Sep 10)
- RE: How do you stop outgoing spam? Tony Hain (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Eliot Lear (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Brad Knowles (Sep 11)
- RE: How do you stop outgoing spam? Rafi Sadowsky (Sep 10)
- Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? Tim Thorne (Sep 10)