Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?

[Brad Knowles <brad.knowles () skynet be>]

At 2:37 PM -0400 2002/09/10, Barry Shein wrote:

>  A) Make a clear policy as part of the terms & conditions, including a
>  significant clean-up fee + direct charges (e.g., if they ask you or
>  prompt a legal question they can pay the legal fee for you to get it
>  answered.)

	That's nice to have, but hard to enforce.  That is, unless you 
ask for a large up-front cash deposit.

>  B) KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU'RE GIVING ACCOUNTS TO so that (A) works. Get
>  a credit card or verify the phone number and other info (e.g., call
>  them back, insist on calling them back.)

	Do you know how many credit cards are out there?  Do you know how 
many of them are fake or stolen?  You can't even get a decent charge 
that you can reliably apply to them, because the bank at the other 
end will refuse payment from a non-existent or closed account.

>  C) Use (B) to enforce (A).

        Doesn't work.  See above.

>  The problem in 99% of the cases is either (B) or ISPs who just don't
>  care at all.

	CyberCafe's can't use (B), even if it did work.  That would 
violate their basic premise.

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Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles () skynet be>

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