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Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings
From: William Allen Simpson <wsimpson () greendragon com>
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:46:15 -0400
"John M. Brown" wrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 04:49:08AM -0700, Randy Bush wrote:a prudent user does not ssh _from_ a machine they don't control orprudent users don't get hacked. non-prudent users hopefully learn or darwin happens.
Ahem! I'm usually considered a prudent user (once upon a time, I was the _only_ person using IPSec at an IETF meeting, having written it myself, and communicating with just about the earliest commercial implementation by Morningstar). ADmittedly, that was from my own laptop, and I've never understood why we had public machines..... However, I've had machines taken over this past summer through the OpenSSH hole. A couple of years back, I had a router taken over through a Cisco hole. You're only as good as your software. And we all rely on each other. That's worth remembering: the Internet still relies on cooperation, between the vendors, and between the operators! Meanwhile, I think Randy and John are both moving in the right direction and I'm sure we'll all call Merit tomorrow to ask what in the world they are thinking.... -- William Allen Simpson Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
Current thread:
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings, (continued)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Kevin Steves (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Joel Jaeggli (Sep 23)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Randy Bush (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Sean Donelan (Sep 22)
- To late to add a Sunday Tutorial, base on MERIT data. Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings John M. Brown (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings John M. Brown (Sep 22)
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- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Dave Crocker (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings John M. Brown (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings John M. Brown (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings William Allen Simpson (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Randy Bush (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings William Allen Simpson (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Vadim Antonov (Sep 23)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Sep 24)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Sean Donelan (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings John M. Brown (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Dave Crocker (Sep 22)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings alex (Sep 23)
- Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings Petri Helenius (Sep 23)