RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

["Barry Raveendran Greene" <bgreene () cisco com>]

Whoops that should be http://www.cisco.com/public/cons/isp/security/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
> Barry Raveendran Greene
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:29 PM
> To: John Crain; 'Jeffrey Meltzer'; nanog () merit edu
> Subject: RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..
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> List the 128-191/8 allocations first. Getting this information from the
> RIR's has been tedious. After that, details on each /8 for all 256 lines
> would be useful. It is a stepping stone to some of other suggestions that
> are bound to come out of this thread.
>
> Rob Thomas and I have been playing around with a more stricter ingress
> prefix filter template to help ISPs get out of the "I only filter RFC1918"
> rut. You can check out the drafts at:
>
>       http://www.cisco.com/public/con/isp/security/
>
> The big question was a consensus on how to handle a template
> recommendation
> for the old B space and C.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
> > John Crain
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:04 AM
> > To: 'Jeffrey Meltzer'; nanog () merit edu
> > Subject: RE: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..
> >
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> >
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> >
> > If folks want me to split it to show 256 lines (one per /8) I can have
> > that happen.
> > Don't want to have multiple sources of the data, so for now that's
> > probably easiest.
> >
> > I'll watch this discussion with interest. If people think something is
> > useful at the IANA level I'll do my best to make it happen.
> >
> > _________________________________________
> > John Crain
> > Manager of Technical Operations
> > ICANN
> >
> > crain () icann org
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On
> > > Behalf Of Jeffrey Meltzer
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:54 PM
> > > To: nanog () merit edu
> > > Subject: Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wouldn't the easiest (at least short term) thing be for IANA
> > > (or someone
> > > else authoritative-like) to put up a text file (not that I'm
> > > really sure
> > > how many blocks this entails) available via http or ftp for people
> > > to periodically wget, etc.
> > >
> > > Surely IANA, ARIN, or someone else has some type of up-to
> > > date database that they could script, etc to generate this file?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 06:36:04PM -0700, John M. Brown wrote:
> > > > First, standard disclaimers..
> > > > 1.  This is a technical email.
> > > > 2.  I'm not speaking for any organization, other than ME.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the last 72 hours I've seen over 3GB of data hit a
> > > network I play
> > > > with with source IP's of IANA-RESERVED space.
> > > >
> > > > Various people have reported seeing IANA-RSERVED get
> > > announced via BGP
> > > > at different parts of the net.
> > > >
> > > > Various people maintain lists of IANA-RESERVED space and other such
> > > > "special use or reserved" prefixes.
> > > >
> > > > These lists are used by others to generate filters, ACL's and the
> > > > like.
> > > >
> > > > When IANA allocates a new prefix to a RIR, these lists have to be
> > > > updated manually.  Sometime after the space has been put
> > > into service
> > > > and someone complains.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Give the above, would it make sense for:
> > > >
> > > > A) The IANA to maintain a IRR/RADB type database that would allow
> > > >    for the auto generation of filters and ACL's based *purely* on
> > > >    RESERVED IANA space.  No other prefixs would be listed.
> > > >
> > > > or
> > > >
> > > > B) For one or more of the RIR's (APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, RIPE, etc) to
> > > >    maintain such a database, again only IANA-RSERVED space.
> > > >
> > > > or
> > > >
> > > > C)  One of the existing well known IRR/RADB's to maintain the db ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If such a database was available, would YOU use it ?
> > > >
> > > > Would it help your network operations?
> > > >
> > > > Would it be of a possitive or negative nature to your network?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lets try to stay away from the obvious potential flames and other
> > > > religous statements.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > John Brown
> > > > Speaking a single person