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Re: Independent space from ARIN
From: "Brian Johnson" <brianj () nvc net>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:08:16 -0500
I thought ARIN was a not-for-profit organization. Like a co-op. I want a cut as I am an ARIN member. :-) - Brian J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix () techmonkeys org> To: "Richard A Steenbergen" <ras () e-gerbil net>; <nanog () merit edu> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Independent space from ARIN
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:21:01AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:* Why do we have to pay very large sums of money ($2500+ per year at a minimum) for this wonderful IP policing service. Where in the heck
does
all that money go?From http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/budget.html : Out of the $7,861,700.00 they raked in last year: SALARIES $2,326,653.85 FRINGE BENEFITS $1,045,063.15 HIRING COSTS $75,000.00 TRAVEL AND CONFERENCE $631,732.40 COMMUNICATIONS $236,699.62 COMPUTER $118,941.75 DEPRECIATION $445,750.00 RENT & OCCUPANCY $461,287.00 GENERAL OFFICE $192,400.00 LEGAL FEES $100,000.00 Legal Defense Fund $200,000.00 ICANN SUPPORT $188,480.00 Other Internet Support - Merit & ISOC $100,000.00 LACNIC SUPPORT $66,000.00 CONSULTING $184,000.00 Total $6,372,007.76 In other words, they're milking the cash cow.* Why are we expected to continue the status quo of paying thousands of dollars for addresses in IPv6? Without the threat of an artifical shortage to "manage", what possible reason is there to justify ARIN's existance or fees? Why do we all get the feeling IPv6 isn't an end to the expenses, but rather a vast new market of registration and renewal fees?Because the owners of the cash cow don't want it to go away.-- Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>
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Current thread:
- Re: Independent space from ARIN, (continued)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Stephen Sprunk (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Bill Woodcock (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Stephen Sprunk (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Doug Barton (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Peter Galbavy (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Hank Nussbacher (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Peter Galbavy (Apr 17)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Andrea Abrahamsen (Apr 14)
- RE: Independent space from ARIN Brian Johnson (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Matthew S. Hallacy (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Brian Johnson (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Bill Woodcock (Apr 14)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Peter Galbavy (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Stephen J. Wilcox (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN E.B. Dreger (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Stephen J. Wilcox (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 16)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Kevin Oberman (Apr 16)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN Stephen Sprunk (Apr 16)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN bdragon (Apr 15)
- Re: Independent space from ARIN bdragon (Apr 13)