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Re: Microsoft distributes free CDs in Japan to patch Windows


From: Omachonu Ogali <nanog () missnglnk com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:11:07 -0400


On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:50:10AM -0400, Roland Perry wrote:

In article <1061823669.17113.3.camel () aiden noc adelphia net>, Paul A.
Bradford <paul.bradford () adelphia com> writes
Hmm,
 and how would you protect the remote controlled MS firewall software
from:

1. Vulnerabilities itself since MS is building it?
2. the "remote control" being hijacked by someone besides MS?
 2a. Hey I'd love to be able to shut folks that were killing my network
off until they update, but is it my right?

It's not that different from (my perception of) the current technology
used for XP Activation. Presumably an unactivated XP ise prevented from
accessing the Internet (as well as being prevented from doing all the
other normal user things), but is still capable of accessing the
activation server. And is the mechanism of a hypothetical remote de-
activation very far from what I was suggesting (maybe as a sort of "ask
the activation server for permission" at regular intervals)?

You can access the Internet with an unactivated copy of XP for 30 days
before it shuts off on you. You can do normal user things with an
unactivated copy for 30 days before it shuts off on you. MS doesn't do
remote deactivation, just timed deactivation.

Theoretically it could be possible, but with all the filter-happy
people around today who are spooked by packets from Windows machines
they don't understand, they might end up filtering off something like
oh say...Windows Update, causing unreachability and tons of support
calls to Microsoft.

Believe me, no matter how much you charge, no one likes support calls,
not even Microsoft at whatever obscene rate it is per pop. Why do you
think XP now comes with 'Remote Assistance' so a friend can help you
instead of having to call Microsoft? Also, perhaps Microsoft put that
high per-call rate into play to SLOW DOWN the amount of calls they
were getting, not because "Bill Gates is greedy". Hey, NetZero did it
too.

Let me stop before I get completely off-topic.

Another rant, another day.


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