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Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions
From: Scott Francis <darkuncle () darkuncle net>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:49:44 -0700
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 09:09:34PM +0300, pete () he iki fi said: [snip]
What we need is a new programming paradigm, capable of actually producing secure (and, yes, reliable) software. C and its progeny (and "program now, test never" lifestyle) must go. I'm afraid it'll take laws which would actually make software makers to pay for bugs and security vulnerabilities in shipped code to make such paradigm shift a reality.Blaming the tools for the mistakes programmers make is like saying "guns kill people" when the truth is that people kill people with guns.
Pete is right. There is no tool sufficiently safe as to prevent abuse, and yet still be useful. Or more succinctly, "Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool." -- Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net illum oportet crescere me autem minui
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- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Jack Bates (Aug 01)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Vadim Antonov (Aug 01)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Jack Bates (Aug 01)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Vadim Antonov (Aug 01)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions E.B. Dreger (Aug 01)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 01)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions E.B. Dreger (Aug 03)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions E.B. Dreger (Aug 03)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 01)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Jack Bates (Aug 01)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions E.B. Dreger (Aug 01)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Vadim Antonov (Aug 02)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Rob Thomas (Aug 02)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Scott Francis (Aug 04)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions bdragon (Aug 04)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Jared Mauch (Aug 04)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions bdragon (Aug 04)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 04)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Paul Vixie (Aug 04)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 04)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Vadim Antonov (Aug 05)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions bdragon (Aug 05)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 05)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Randy Bush (Aug 06)
- Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions Jared Mauch (Aug 04)