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Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?)
From: Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com>
Date: 28 Aug 2003 18:05:04 +0000
As attacks evolve and transform are we really to believe that rate limiting icmp will have some value in the attacks of tomorrow?
no. nor those of today. the only way we're going to flatten the increase of attack volume, or even turn it into a decrease, is with various forms of admission control which are considered "the greater evil" by a lot of the half baked civil libertarians who inhabit the internet at layer 9. for example, edge urpf. for example, full realtime multinoc issue tracking. for example, route filtering based on rir allocations. for example, peering agreements that require active intermediation when downstreams misbehave. "you can have peace. or you can have freedom. don't ever count on having both at once." -LL (RAH) -- Paul Vixie
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- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?), (continued)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) alex (Aug 28)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 28)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) alex (Aug 28)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 28)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) Sean Donelan (Aug 28)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 28)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) Sean Donelan (Aug 29)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 31)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) Michael Hallgren (Aug 28)
- Re: Fw: GLBX ICMP rate limiting (was RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?) alex (Aug 28)