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Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders
From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:20:17 -0800
jared:
this is the ability of a single host operator to make their own local policy decisions.
randy:
which leads to the heat death of the net
joe:
or allows the net to prosper, since policy is distributed rather than centralised.
randy:
consider verifying, or making any assertions about, or having any confidence in, the correctness of a universe of distributed and opaque policy.
to further amplify and make clear whose ideas i am stealing, let me quote tim griffin: The Interdomain routing system will enter a state of non- convergence that is so disruptive as to effectively bring down large portions of the Internet. The problem will be due to unforeseen global interactions of locally defined routing policies. Furthermore, no one ISP will have enough knowledge to identify and debug the problem. It will take nearly a week to fix and cost the world economy billions of dollars. The world press will learn that the internet engineering community had known about this lurking problem all along.... [ tim goes on to suggest how we might keep from getting in such a mess ] i suggest that we take this seriously. randy
Current thread:
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders, (continued)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Charles Sprickman (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Randy Bush (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Jared Mauch (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Randy Bush (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Jared Mauch (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Randy Bush (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Joe Abley (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Randy Bush (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Randy Bush (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Daniel Roesen (Dec 01)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders John Brown (CV) (Dec 02)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Daniel Roesen (Dec 02)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Randy Bush (Dec 02)
- Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders Paul Vixie (Dec 02)