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Re: OT: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?
From: Scott Granados <scott () wworks net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:37:53 -0800 (PST)
Its actually funny you mention this. I'd been working on a way to deliver television via atm for years just never had much interest. But basically by attaching to the cloud and then being able to draw pvc's over to dsl lines it should be quite possible. Don't forget also many of us in given areas have faster than 1.5 down in my case its 6 down which should be pleanty for a good tv picture. I'm sure bell would love to put a set top box in when you buy dsl, maybe even have it part of the shipping package you get when you join which delivers tv. Give you phone, net and tv over one pair they should eat that up! Not to mention theoretically isp's should be able to offer it as well with their own offerings. On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Chris Parker wrote:
At 10:58 AM 1/22/2003 -0800, Al Rowland wrote:1. I also remember when web page standards required you to design everything to fit in a 640x400 screen. DTV/HDTV will significantly change your 'not much in the way of image quality loss' yardstick. My viewing habits have changed significantly in the year plus I've been DTV/HDTV. Among other things, I go to the movies a lot less. DVD quality (which is lower than HDTV) is better than most movie theaters and there's no gum/spilled drink (most of the time) on my floor.Agreed, however the source video that I've seen demoed is from DVD. Side by side comparison shows slight degradation, but solo viewing is more than adequate. This also isn't targetted to people at the end of the bell curve for technology adopters and purists, rather at the fat middle section that isn't upgrading to ( or doesn't care about ) HDTV yet and for whom current "digital video" quality is "just fine".2. I already have it. It's called broadcast. $100 (could have been less but I always over design) antenna and $20 of coax. No monthly fee. I do pay for the DirecTV feed, but that's a separate flame war.Last I checked "premium" channels came via Cable or Satellite. :) If you have separate DSL line and DirecTV then you are doubling up on delivery costs. Would the average consumer like to "add" video to their DSL connection? The cable company cuts you a deal if you have video and data on the same line. Wouldn't the telco's like to compete in that market?Of course, you could just as easily be right.Who knows? :) Reality will probably end up somewhere in the middle. -Chris -- \\\|||/// \ StarNet Inc. \ Chris Parker \ ~ ~ / \ WX *is* Wireless! \ Director, Engineering | @ @ | \ http://www.starnetwx.net \ (847) 963-0116 oOo---(_)---oOo--\------------------------------------------------------ \ Wholesale Internet Services - http://www.megapop.net
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- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?, (continued)
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- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? todd glassey (Jan 21)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Andy Dills (Jan 22)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? todd glassey (Jan 22)
- RE: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Al Rowland (Jan 22)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Petri Helenius (Jan 22)
- RE: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Chris Parker (Jan 22)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Max's Lists (Jan 22)
- OT: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Al Rowland (Jan 22)
- Re: OT: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Chris Parker (Jan 22)
- Re: OT: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Scott Granados (Jan 22)
- OT: Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Petri Helenius (Jan 22)
- Re: OT: Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Marshall Eubanks (Jan 22)
- Re: OT: Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Petri Helenius (Jan 23)
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- Re: Streaming Video Bandwidth Requirements, WAS: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Numetra (Jan 24)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Damian Gerow (Jan 22)
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