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Re: OT: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?


From: Scott Granados <scott () wworks net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:37:53 -0800 (PST)


Its actually funny you mention this.  I'd been working on a way to deliver
television via atm for years just never had much interest.  But basically
by attaching to the cloud and then being able to draw pvc's over to dsl
lines it should be quite possible.  Don't forget also many of us in given
areas have faster than 1.5 down in my case its 6 down which should be
pleanty for a good tv picture.   I'm sure bell would love to put a set top
box in when you buy dsl, maybe even have it part of the shipping package
you get when you join which delivers tv.  Give you phone, net and tv over
one  pair they should eat that up!  Not to mention theoretically isp's
should be able to offer it as well with their own offerings.


On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Chris Parker wrote:


At 10:58 AM 1/22/2003 -0800, Al Rowland wrote:
1. I also remember when web page standards required you to design
everything to fit in a 640x400 screen. DTV/HDTV will significantly
change your 'not much in the way of image quality loss' yardstick. My
viewing habits have changed significantly in the year plus I've been
DTV/HDTV. Among other things, I go to the movies a lot less. DVD quality
(which is lower than HDTV) is better than most movie theaters and
there's no gum/spilled drink (most of the time) on my floor.

Agreed, however the source video that I've seen demoed is from DVD.  Side
by side comparison shows slight degradation, but solo viewing is more
than adequate.  This also isn't targetted to people at the end of the
bell curve for technology adopters and purists, rather at the fat middle
section that isn't upgrading to ( or doesn't care about ) HDTV yet and
for whom current "digital video" quality is "just fine".

2. I already have it. It's called broadcast. $100 (could have been less
but I always over design) antenna and $20 of coax. No monthly fee. I do
pay for the DirecTV feed, but that's a separate flame war.

Last I checked "premium" channels came via Cable or Satellite.  :)  If
you have separate DSL line and DirecTV then you are doubling up on
delivery costs.  Would the average consumer like to "add" video to their
DSL connection?  The cable company cuts you a deal if you have video
and data on the same line.  Wouldn't the telco's like to compete in that
market?

Of course, you could just as easily be right.

Who knows?  :)  Reality will probably end up somewhere in the middle.

-Chris

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