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Re: OT: Re: User negligence?


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 01:08:05 -0400

On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:56:28 EDT, Len Rose <len () netsys com>  said:

I humbly disagree. It is not user negligence, but rather neglgence on 
behalf of the entity's systems team, or perhaps the entity's failure 
to support their own systems team by hiring competent staff instead
of relying on people who play office politik or look nice in a suit 
and tie. User's are not expected to be secure their machines, or
even barely know more than how to use a handful of applications. 
In the bank's case hopefully they are supposed to be financial experts.

Right.  The problem was that it was exactly that clueless *USER* machine that
got trojaned.

So for instance, if you are one of the people who got burned by the recent
Kinko key-sniffer hacks, and the hacker used the info to logon to your bank
account, in what way is the bank liable?  What *realistic* steps is the bank
supposed to take? (Hint - what percentage of *security professionals* use an
S/Key or similar for remote logins?)

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