Re: Abuse Departments

["Bryan Heitman" <bryan () bryanheitman com>]

Would you perhaps have more underlying problems if a "script kiddie" on a
dialup can attack you in such a way to impact your service?

Bryan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Bruns" <bruns () 2mbit com>
To: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix () techmonkeys org>; "Matt"
<acheron () qwest net>; <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Abuse Departments


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix () techmonkeys org>
> To: "Matt" <acheron () qwest net>; <nanog () merit edu>
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 3:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Abuse Departments
>
>
> > Most places will take care of abuse issues if they get to the right
> person,
> > but some places simply won't wake up their network admin at 11:00 on a
> saturday
> > night because some script kiddie's DSL is getting attacked by another
> > script kiddie on IRC.
>
>
> Watch yourself poptix - you don't have such a squeaky clean past either.
>
> Point is this.  If your network/servers are being used in an attack
against
> someone else, you can be held responsible if you do not act in a timely
> manner.
>
> This "script kiddie's DSL" is actually a shared setup with several servers
> on the end of it and a firewall.  What happens to it also affects me and
my
> customers.  When my customers go down, I get complaints.
>
> Now, if your network was attacking mine from a comprimised box, and you
> failed to act in a timely fashion, regardless if its a DSL or a T1 or a
> dialup for that matter, I'd either sue you myself for allowing the attack
to
> continue, or give my customers your info and let THEM sue you for it.