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Re: Blacklisting: obvious P2P app
From: Damian Gerow <damian () sentex net>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:44:36 -0400
Thus spake David Schwartz (davids () webmaster com) [24/09/03 17:39]:
If anyone who attempts to distribute such a list is DoSed to oblivion, people will stop being willing to distribute such a list. Yes, spam is an economic activity, but spammers may engage in long-term planning. You can't keep the list of distributors secret. I'd be very interested in techiques that overcome this problem. I've been looking into tricking existing widely-deployed infrastructures into acting a distributors, but this raises both ethical and technical questions.
P2P has been suggested, and while I make no comments about P2P itself... What about Freenet? It hides the origin of the file(s), it's truly distributed, it's encrypted, it's authenticated, and it will do your dishes. Okay, so it won't actually do your dishes. But it seems to do everything that most other people have suggested. It's incredibly difficult to DoS a Freenet node, and it's incredibly easy to set one up (just requires some hefty CPU).
Current thread:
- Re: what to do about joe-jobs?, (continued)
- Re: what to do about joe-jobs? Justin Shore (Sep 24)
- Re: what to do about joe-jobs? Stephen J. Wilcox (Sep 24)
- Re: what to do about joe-jobs? Justin Shore (Sep 24)
- Re: what to do about joe-jobs? Kee Hinckley (Sep 24)
- Re: what to do about joe-jobs? Justin Shore (Sep 24)
- Re: what to do about joe-jobs? David Raistrick (Sep 24)
- Re: what to do about joe-jobs? Stephen L Johnson (Sep 24)
- Blacklisting: obvious P2P app neal rauhauser (Sep 24)
- RE: Blacklisting: obvious P2P app David Schwartz (Sep 24)
- RE: Blacklisting: obvious P2P app Vadim Antonov (Sep 24)
- Re: Blacklisting: obvious P2P app Damian Gerow (Sep 24)
- RE: Another DNS blacklist is taken down Justin Shore (Sep 24)
- RE: Another DNS blacklist is taken down Mike Batchelor (Sep 29)
- Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down Jared Mauch (Sep 29)
- Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down Dan Armstrong (Sep 29)
- Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down Jared Mauch (Sep 29)
- Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down Mike Tancsa (Sep 29)
- Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down Dan Armstrong (Sep 29)
- Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down Jared Mauch (Sep 29)
- Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down Steve Linford (Sep 29)