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Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates)
From: Paul Vixie <paul () vix com>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:34:57 +0000
whats disturbing is how many contact addresses for both whois and AS#'s bounce
sure, i agree, that's disturbing. however, it's a different problem than having mail get ignored or ignorebotted and then depref'd so low that nobody even bothers to call you or let you know whether a human ever say the message. when it's a spammer then i can understand that there might be money lost if the isp disco's them. that's evil and rude, but i understand it. when it's unwanted packet-level traffic, though, there is no revenue stream to be protected by the simple expedient of ignoring complaints -- ddos'ers do not pay for their outgo. what's happening in this case is simply that there isn't enough staff to deal with every issue that affects outside complainers. it turns out that this lack scales nicely, creating the same lack elsewhere, due to competitive pressure, general apathy toward whole classes of problems, and so forth. branding program. we need a branding program. is there still an isp consortium in existence or did they all just die like cix? we need a "better netkeeping seal of approval" stamp before the worseness goes through its next geometric progression.
Current thread:
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Paul Vixie (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Alan Spicer (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Paul Vixie (Sep 29)
- Knock, Noc... Whos there? bmanning (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Alan Spicer (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Paul Vixie (Sep 29)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Michael . Dillon (Sep 29)
- Re: ISPs blocking port 53? (was Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates) Alan Spicer (Sep 29)