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Juniper failes to change keys (More MD5 fun: Cisco uses wrong MD5 key for old session after key change)
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:40:13 -0400 (EDT)
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 sthaug () nethelp no wrote:
After a while I decided to change the MD5 key. The session with the new key came up and looked fine, but the old session didn't close properly. Notice the close is initiated from the Juniper side, and the first packet from the Cisco side is now sent with an invalid MD5 digest - it turns out that the packet is actually sent with an MD5 digest based on the *new* key:
This is a feature, and hopefully Juniper will also add the same feature soon. The feature allows you to change the MD5 key without flapping the BGP session which is very important on large peering sessions. There is no requirement that MD5 keys must remain constant throughout an entire TCP session, or to terminate a TCP session when the key changes. As long as both sides agree, the key can be changed at any time including in the middle of a TCP session. New packets after the key change are sent with message digests based on the new key. Key management is still an issue. It would be nice to be able to "roll" the MD5 key change similar to more recent protocols. If you had a list of valid keys, we wouldn't need to perfectly synchronize key changes. But this would increase CPU utilization for failed packets, i.e. check key, key + 1, key - 1, increasing the DOS risk.
Current thread:
- More MD5 fun: Cisco uses wrong MD5 key for old session after key change sthaug (Apr 24)
- Juniper failes to change keys (More MD5 fun: Cisco uses wrong MD5 key for old session after key change) Sean Donelan (Apr 24)
- Re: More MD5 fun: Cisco uses wrong MD5 key for old session after key change Simon Lockhart (Apr 25)
- Re: More MD5 fun: Cisco uses wrong MD5 key for old session after key change Alexei Roudnev (Apr 25)