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Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia?
From: Robert Bonomi <bonomi () mail r-bonomi com>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:39:23 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Henry Linneweh <hrlinneweh () sbcglobal net> Subject: Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? --- "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () telecomplete co uk> wrote:On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Henry Linneweh wrote:--- "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () telecomplete co uk> wrote:On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Petri Helenius wrote:We have had running code for this since early this year, so depending on the date they filed, prior art exists well documented.(blueprints obviously predate running code) everyone has gone patent crazy, every time a new concept is developed some company applies for patent. is this the future or rfcs then? SteveWell if it will harm the community, would it be possible to auto copyright rfc's, so that the authors of a concept can prevent someone from sipping their effort off?
RFCs -- like aything else -- _are_ copyrighted, under current law. However, almost all, if not all, of them contain express permission for anyone to copy/reproduce them. Copyright of a process description, furthermore, does *NOT* preclude someone from -using- the the process that was so described. Aside from those 'inconsiderate' facts getting in the way, you don't have a bad idea. :)
Ignorance at the top doesn't mean we can't be like always leading the way...... -Henryone issue with that might be that the patents are taken out on variations of the core idea, imho the variations are not new ideas but legally they seem to get away with it Steveok so then in the copyright let us see if can cover all variations of the original concept as belonging to the original author or author's as a test case for adaption and modificaiton to copyright law. I strongly believe in the protection of original idea's in reference to rfc's
Sorry, copyright doesn't work that way. The _expression_ the concept is protected. *NOT* the underlying concept itself. To protect a 'process', or 'mechanism', you are into the realm of _patent_ law.
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- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia?, (continued)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Raymond Dijkxhoorn (Aug 12)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Andre Oppermann (Aug 12)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Paul Jakma (Aug 12)
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- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Hank Nussbacher (Aug 13)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Henry Linneweh (Aug 13)
- RE: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Neil J. McRae (Aug 12)
- RE: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Neil J. McRae (Aug 12)
- RE: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Barry Raveendran Greene (Aug 12)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 12)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 12)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Robert Bonomi (Aug 12)
- RE: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Michel Py (Aug 12)
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- BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Bevan Slattery (Aug 12)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Stephen J. Wilcox (Aug 13)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? william(at)elan.net (Aug 13)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Bevan Slattery (Aug 13)
- Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Edward B. Dreger (Aug 13)
- RE: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Barry Raveendran Greene (Aug 13)
- RE: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Edward B. Dreger (Aug 13)
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- RE: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Barry Raveendran Greene (Aug 13)
- RE: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia? Hank Nussbacher (Aug 14)