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RE: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior)
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 23:18:58 +0200 (CEST)
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Michel Py wrote:
Grow up; when you buy a Saab "brand" part or option for a Saab car, it costs twice as much as the same aftermarket part, which still is twice as much as what you could get if you bought a box of 10 directly from the manufacturer, which is twice as much as it costs them to manufacture overseas. Everyone does that.
If the listprice was 4 times the manufacturer cost you still wouldn't see an argument from me. I'll gladly pay 2-3 times the cost to get a fully supported and approved product from the manufacturer. It's the 10x-50x markup I find repulsive, and compared to other manufacturers equipment (were I actually have a choice of buying from other manufacturers and testing it myself) the Cisco business case gets really bad. Also, the "time to market" is a big factor, the fact that Finisar was late in developing 80km SFPs compared to other manufacturers made for instance Extreme Networks (don't know about Cisco) very late in releasing this product. At that time, Extreme also coded their optics so there was no choice. This made us not purchase their SFP based offerings at all for quite some time. I'm still very hesitant when it comes to Cisco SFP based products for the same reason. I now see the same thing with Xenpak WAN PHY. When you have an industry standard for interchangable optics, why should a manufacutrer lock in their customers to their own branded optics? (Yeah, I've heard the sales excuse before). -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- RE: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Michel Py (Aug 27)
- RE: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 27)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Michel Py (Aug 28)
- Re: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Deepak Jain (Aug 28)
- Re: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Peter Galbavy (Aug 30)
- RE: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Mark Borchers (Aug 30)
- RE: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Simon Lyall (Aug 30)
- Re: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Matthew Palmer (Aug 30)
- RE: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Lars Erik Gullerud (Aug 30)
- Re: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Peter Galbavy (Aug 31)
- Re: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Deepak Jain (Aug 28)
- Re: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 29)
- RE: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior) Pete Kruckenberg (Aug 29)