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Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)
From: Steve Uurtamo <uurtamo () arttoday com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:03:39 -0700
Reasoning like this leads me to schemes that involve imposing cost. It may be financial, it may be CPU cycles, it may be any of a number of things. But it can't be identity based, except for recipient-based whitelists, and they have their own disadvantages.
cost is good. the problem is convincing a reasonable user of smtpthat everything would work much better only if everything (for instance) took longer (or cost more) to deliver. can you imagine the joy of debugging a problem-solving challenge/response system? or better yet, getting *everyone* to switch out their client? (and who would actively support "phasing out" smtp clients as they stand as long as it all still worked? keep in mind that uucp is still alive and well because it actually works.)
only when the average joe hates spam enough that the cost to him justifies the effort to him can it happen. right now, i think it's mostly tech geeks who get really amped up about it. and of course, they view the cost to them as disproportionately high...
s.
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- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Joel Jaeggli (Feb 17)
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- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Steve Uurtamo (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Alex Bligh (Feb 17)
- RE: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Tony Hain (Feb 17)
- RE: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Alex Bligh (Feb 17)
- RE: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Tony Hain (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Paul Jakma (Feb 18)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) John Kristoff (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Todd Vierling (Feb 17)
- Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Dave Crocker (Feb 18)
- RE: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea) Tony Hain (Feb 18)
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