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Re: concern over public peering points


From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net>
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:02:37 +0200


* scg () gibbard org (Steve Gibbard) [Mon 05 Jul 2004, 10:19 CEST]:
[..]
The performance arguments are probably more controversial.  The
arguments are that shortening the path between two networks increases
performance, and that removing an extra network in the middle increases
reliability. The first argument holds relatively little water, since
it's in many cases only the AS Path (not really relevant for packet
forwarding performance) that gets shortened, rather than the number of
routers or even the number of fiber miles.

"Not really"?  Not always, perhaps.  But it's more the rule than the
exception, I think.


If traffic goes from network A, to network A's router at an exchange
point, to network C, that shouldn't be different performance-wise from
the traffic going from network A, to Network B's router at the exchange
point, to Network C.

Except that, due to "peering games" some companies tend to engage in,
the exchange point where A and B exchange traffic may well be in a
different country from where A, C and their nearest exchange point is.


Assuming none of the three networks are underprovisioning, the
ownership of the router in the middle shouldn't make much difference.
The reliability argument is probably more valid -- one less network
means one less set of engineers to screw something up, but the big
transit networks tend to be pretty reliable these days, and buying
transit from two of them should be quite safe.

The correct phrasing is indeed "one less network" and not "one less
router."  It's rarely one device in my experience.


        -- Niels.


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