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Re: Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)
From: Henry Linneweh <hrlinneweh () sbcglobal net>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
Since all NSP's, ISP's, ALEC's, BLEC's and CLEC's adhere to this accepted behavior and there are more than 100 I blieve the court would be on the side of the plaintiff under the 3rd amendment of the constitution. It is my understanding that doing otherwise will cause an administrative nightmare and harm to the standard numbering system across vast segments of the industry and would create greater security risks than at present. It would cause enconomic harm to software writen specifically towards the current system and force redistribution of software and or fixes that could be disruptive for months on end. Worse case scenario. I think this is a bad precedent, and poor judgement on the part of the defendent ISP, for the small number block they have. The long term potential harm could result in small ISP's not being able to get number blocks thus making it more difficult for small companies to gain better backbone access, from their Tier 1 host counterparts and could trigger a potentional shakeout in the industry. Have A nice day... -Henry --- "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () telecomplete co uk> wrote:
Can we stop the analogies before they begin. This is not the PSTN, comparing it to the PSTN appears to be where the court is going wrong. This is the Internet. It is internationally accepted policy that IP space is issued under a kind of license that does not give ownership or transferability. It is also part of the fundemental operation of the Internet that address space remains aggregated and that customers borrow space from the provider and if they move they get given new address space by the new provider. This is agreed by IANA, the RIRs, the ISPs. Steve On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Johnny Eriksson wrote:"Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <fergdawg () netzero net>wrote:Regardless, this is not a telephony issue ("CanI take my cellnumber with me?"), as the courts as seemdisposed to diagnosethese days, but rather, a technical one insofaras the IP routingtable efficiency.No, this is not about taking a phone number. Thisis about a someonemoving to a new apartment in a different part oftown, and asking thecourt to force the owner of the old house toreassign the old streetaddress to him. --Johnny
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- Re: Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!) Stephen J. Wilcox (Jun 29)
- Re: Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!) Henry Linneweh (Jun 29)
- Re: Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!) Randy Bush (Jun 29)
- Re: Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!) Brad Passwaters (Jun 29)
- Re: Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!) Doug White (Jun 29)
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