Re: botnets world and the FBI

[Henry Linneweh <hrlinneweh () sbcglobal net>]

E-crime = E-crap another media driven dribbled label.

There are many students, even housewives who in their
spare time write botnets and other software mechanisms
simply for the purpose of learning how to program, in
C and C++ or even learn how to script in Perl, Python
and tcl. To make a blanket statement is to condemn
innocent people who have nothing to do with a limited
group of people that do warez aka pirate software on
irc servers when law enforcement, already has been
there to make cases and arrests and prosecutions.

Seeing that a dalnet luser is crying wolf, if my
history has taught me correctly, that network got
ddos'd out of existence over warez and battles over
control over software piracy. Other networks were 
intelligent enough to get out of the way and make
sure such events do not destroy the client base.

-Nite


--- Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:06:20 EDT, "Jamie C.Pole"
> said:
> > Because academics know EVERYTHING.
>
> What's that got to do with anything?  (or are you
> making the rather rash and
> all-too-common generalization that everybody who
> posts from a .edu is an
> academic?  Surprise - at least some sites are clued
> enough to keep academics in
> the classroom and lab, and hire people who know
> something about production
> environments to run the network and the big
> servers....)
>
> > Let's not talk about the links between financial
> fraud, drugs, and 
> > terrorism.  Of course they're related...
>
> Right... my point is that "e-crime" is a *symptom*
> of the others - you won't
> be able to do anything about e-crime until the
> *root* problem (fraud/drugs/terrorism)
> is dealt with.
>
> We have had enough ill-defined 'War on
> Election-Year-Buzzwords' (terrorism,
> drugs, organized crime, illiteracy, poverty - the
> wars on Communism and
> Inflation seem to have evaporated.  I've probably
> missed a few...).  And we
> seem to do a very poor job of ever asking *why*
> people decide to blow us up, or
> do drugs, or be poor/homeless.  I don't see any
> reason why we'd do any better
> with e-crime.....
>
> And even if E-crime *is* a separate war we need to
> declare, where will we get
> the resources from?  Our military has long had a
> policy regarding the troop
> strength we need, and bases it on a "We can handle 3
> small conflicts, or 1
> large and one small, and we need to avoid being in 2
> major conflicts at once"
> type of ruleset.  Take a look how many billions of
> dollars a month we're
> collectively hemorrhaging in Iraq, and ask what
> we'll trim to fight e-crime.

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