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Re: Even you can be hacked
From: "Wayne E. Bouchard" <web () typo org>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:41:45 -0700
I think we're drifting from the original point here.. What it boils down to is this: If I have a DS3 to a provider in my office and my provider notifies me that I have a worm, is it my provider's responsibility to fly someone out here to help me fix my systems? No. I'm the guy controlling them and I'm the one who has to take the responsibility. So what if I don't know how? Well, surely they can advise me where to look for the requisite information. And if thats insufficient, I can contact a consultant to come in and help me clean up my network but thats the key, it's MY network and MY job. My service provider is responsible for transporting the traffic. Even if it's "bad" traffic. I'm the one who is responsible for making sure that the traffic originating from my network is the traffic I *want* to originate from my network. Obviously, if the provider chooses to implement policies (such as cable modem providers and so forth) that restrict the type of traffic I'm allowed to source, thats their business. It's still my job to make sure that my servers are clean. On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 01:17:46PM -0700, Crist Clark wrote:
Sean Donelan wrote:If you leave your lights on, the electric company will send you a bill.If the neighbor taps into your power lines after the meter...?If you leave your faucets running, the water company will send you a bill. If you leave your computer infected, ???If you lose your credit card and someone runs up thousands of dollars in charges, the credit card company sends you a bill... But you can at most be held responsible for $50. Does that really mean anything with respect to Mr. Donelan's quoted article? Not really. But neither do electric and water bills. I have some sympathy for the malware victim. But I don't expect the ISP to eat all of the costs. The article is more balanced than the selected quotes portray. -- Crist J. Clark crist.clark () globalstar com Globalstar Communications (408) 933-4387
--- Wayne Bouchard web () typo org Network Dude http://www.typo.org/~web/
Current thread:
- was: Even you can be hacked, (continued)
- was: Even you can be hacked Matthew McGehrin (Jun 11)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Stephen J. Wilcox (Jun 11)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Owen DeLong (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Mark Kent (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Owen DeLong (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Crist Clark (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Alex Rubenstein (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Owen DeLong (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked james edwards (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Jeff Kell (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Wayne E. Bouchard (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Adam Debus (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Randy Bush (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Alex Rubenstein (Jun 10)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Owen DeLong (Jun 11)
- Re: Even you can be hacked Stephen Sprunk (Jun 11)
- RE: Even you can be hacked Adi Linden (Jun 11)
- RE: Even you can be hacked Randy Bush (Jun 11)