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Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...)
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:42:40 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
yes, agreed. moving toward the next technology of snooping is a good thing for DoJ.
You can request copies of the law enforcement needs documents at http://www.askcalea.net/standards.html Packet Surveillance Fundamental Needs Document (PSFND) Electronic Surveillance Needs for Carrier Grade Voice over Packet Service (CGVoP) Electronic Surveillance Needs for Public IP Network Access Service (PIPNAS) If you don't like sending your name and email address to the FBI, try Google. The VOIP document is about 80 pages long, the IP document is about 100 pages. However, the historical practice has been to revise and extend the requirements. So there may be additional needs which aren't included in these documents. They are very extensive needs, not just maintaining the status quo. Is "sound transmitted" call-content or call-identification action? On the other hand, is "silence" call-content or call-identification? When reporting every packet transmitted as call-identification information really letting you partially peak into the content (sound/silence) without the hassle of a content intercept order? People have guessed the length of people's passwords based on the number of packets, even though they couldn't decrypt the packets.
Current thread:
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...), (continued)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Sean Donelan (Jun 20)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) John Curran (Jun 20)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Sean Donelan (Jun 20)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Owen DeLong (Jun 21)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) John Curran (Jun 21)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Pete Schroebel (Jun 21)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Christopher L. Morrow (Jun 21)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Pete Schroebel (Jun 21)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Randy Bush (Jun 21)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Christopher L. Morrow (Jun 21)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Sean Donelan (Jun 21)
- Re: S.2281 Hearing (was: Justice Dept: Wiretaps...) Sean Donelan (Jun 21)