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Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:46:24 +0100
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 12:15 +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 18-nov-04, at 18:02, Jeroen Massar wrote:Larger enterprises probably consist of 200 'sites' already, eg seperate offices, locations etc. Thus they can, after becoming a LIR and getting an ASN, which most of the time they already have, easily get a /32.Jeroen, this is nonsense and you know it.
It is not nonsense as long as 'multi6' doesn't have a solution to the problem, but as politics go above getting solutions... <SNIP>
Now I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but having unaggregatable globally routable address space just doesn't scale and there are no routing tricks that can make it scale, whatever you put in the IP version bits, so learn to love renumbering. And again, IPv6+NAT makes no sense as NAT works much better with IPv4 and with NAT you don't really need the larger address space.
Absolutely. Which is why one will always here from me: "Want to NAT? Then stay at IPv4"
Actually, I would even go so far that the really large corps should be able to get a /32 from every RIR when they globally have offices, this could allow them to keep the traffic at least on the same continent, not having to send it to another place of the world themselves.If you want to introduce geography into routing, do it right. The above "solution" is the worst of several worlds.
Not my idea at all, several big ISP's already do this. Check http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/tla/all/ and look which organizations have multiple RIR allocations ;) Just for the reason you mentioned above: they are actually separate organizations under one big umbrella. But they did fill the policy thus got their allocation. Greets, Jeroen
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- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Jeroen Massar (Nov 19)
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- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Stephen Sprunk (Nov 19)
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- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] bmanning (Nov 20)
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- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Stephen Sprunk (Nov 21)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 22)
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